Resource Recap: Telling the Children – tips from Judith Wallenstein

The book What about the Kids by Judith Wallenstein and Sandra Blakeslee is a good place to start when unpacking the personal impact of separation. See my notes on telling the children that I recorded while reading and using this resource in support group facilitation.

  • This conversation raises the curtain on the changed family, therefore it requires careful thought.
  • Call two family meetings rather than one to make sure each child has a chance to understand what has been said.
  • Just as your life will never be the same after the breakup, divorce is a critical turning point for each of your children.
  • Even the littlest ones sense the difference.
  • If you want your children to feel protected and secure, you must provide that security and protection for them.
  • Most children want the marriage to be preserved and feel better protected by two-parent families.
  • Many children are content in a marriage that the parents find unhappy or unfulfilling. They don’t know or don’t care if their parents are sleeping in different rooms, beds, or haven’t communicated for a long time.
  • Some grown children of divorce confess with embarrassment that they still hold wishes that their parents would get back together.  
  • Holidays, neighbours, etc. are cherished memories that last many years and are brought up when grown children reminisce on when speaking frankly about their parents’ divorce.
  • The most important thing to do is to tell your children what is happening in the family before it all comes apart.
  • Tell them about your plans before you separate, that way they have preparation and support from you once they wake up and realize one parent is gone.
  • If your children are five or younger, it is best to tell them a day or two before you separate.
  • If your children are school aged, a few days to a week before will help them assimilate what you say.
  • Adolescents often know before the parents even tell them, but you should still tell them at least two weeks before. This way they have the opportunity to talk to their best friends about what is happening and figure out what it means for them and what happens next.
  • Your goal is to assure them that you’re looking out for their best interest starting from the beginning.
  • Chose a quiet time when you and the children have plenty of time to talk.
  • Plan to tell your children when both you and your spouse are home for the next few days or the weekend.
  • If you and your spouse can’t cooperate, tell the children separately taking turns, going one right after the other.
  • You owe your children the gift of civility and cooperation at this transformative stage in their lives.
  • Grown children of divorce often fear being too happy. This fear is related to the feelings they experienced during their parents’ divorce. The stun of the divorce made them then embed in their minds the kind of fatalism about the fragility of relationships.
  • Your children will always remember how you acted in this juncture in their lives.
  • You must spell out differences that your children can understand.
  • Telling the truth doesn’t mean you scapegoat or deprecate each other to your children.
  • Stay cool when telling your children and explain to them that during divorces people often get upset and blame each other.
  • Tell your children that you tried to fix the marriage and didn’t just act impulsively, irrationally and foolishly. Explain to them that you tried very hard.   
  • Be honest and show respect for the gravity or the situation because this gives your children permission to show their hurt and anger about the situation. This is crucial because it allows them to cry.
  • Your children will do anything to not rock the boat more in the situation. They love you and wish to care for you, and realize it is a crisis for at least one of you.
  • Explain to them that you will always have a family, it will just look different.
  • You owe your child the honest expression of your feelings and the freedom not to be a soldier in your battle.
  • Your job is to educate them about right and wrong and help them express their anger and sorrow along with yours.
  • If your child is ten of eleven and there has been an infidelity, if you have the courage to do so simply tell them that their mom or dad loves another person more and they cannot live together any longer. Leave out details like, “they have been sleeping with someone else”.
  • Let them tell you about their worry of losing you, about strange ideas of being put in a foster home, and not having funds for college, etc.
  • Try to help them say what they’re scared of or relieved about.
  • Describe to them what your plans are in terms of where the children will live and plans about custody and visiting.
  • Ask them about their ideas and comments and promise to take them into consideration.
  • Be sure to make them not feel like inanimate objects which are simply distributed between two homes.
  • Maintain whatever stability that you can help preserve to help them adjust to the inevitable changes.
  • Tell them that these changes, although sad, can be a growth experience for you and your child.
  • Be sure to tell them your decisions, ask for their opinions, said you’re sorry, and laid out what is about to happen.
  • Be sure to clearly lay out what will happen for life in the post-divorce family – considering where they will live, when they will see each other, etc. 

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Older Children and Separation

adult child and elderly mom on beach

The Forgotten Children in a Family Separation

Older children are a growing and somewhat forgotten age group. Many separating parents wait until their children grow to a certain age (late-adolescence or early 20s) to make the separation a reality. They expect their ‘adult’ child to be able to accept and manage the separation. After all, these young people are rarely at home and often appear remarkably independent.

I would advise separating parents to take a few moments and make a list of all the disruptions and concerns that your child will likely have to accept or endure from your separation. Below are a few possibilities, though they don’t exhaust the reactions of this group. Recognize that the optics of the separation may play an important part in their reaction , such as who appears responsible for causing the separation and who is the ‘victim’. The concept of ‘no-fault’ divorce is unlikely to find quiet acceptance here.

A family unit that has only known being intact, even through considerable parental unhappiness, is all that the children have known. For some parents at this stage there is a defiant ‘I have been unhappy long enough by remaining in a loveless marriage, it is my time to find happiness’ position. That is not an unreasonable feeling but one also needs to be sensitive to where your children are on this parental ‘failure’. Otherwise your search for personal happiness may be cut short by guilt and loss.

Anticipating Challenges

A parental split rarely if ever goes as planned in what I would call an ‘adult’ or ‘no-fault ‘way. In addition there is the added likelihood that families with two or more mid-adolescent children may see the children live with different parents. The intact family can often become the ‘splintered family’ with many unintended outcomes that can become too long-lasting. Regaining an enduring life-long parenting relationship may have to be accomplished within limited, reduced opportunities with your child. Different perspectives among older children can cause serious rifts that can be long-lasting.

This is a reminder that every relationship is tested by the way parents separate. Unintended negative outcomes are more likely to endure when older children are no longer under the same roof because there is less together time to repair the damage and to work it through. In addition each sibling relationship within the intact family has its own history based on age, personality, parental connection, etc.

Planning to Tell the Older Children

Below is a partial list of reactions. Please compile your own list for each child and if possible bring those lists together as parents prior to a more formal separating conversation with your child. Reactions are very individual and may include many mixed reactions:

  • Older children often believe in ‘rescuing’ the ‘wronged’ parent.
  • Older children often blame one parent and see the other parent as being abandoned.
  • Older children may also decide to live their life separate from one or both parents.

When discussing the plan to separate with your older children, please consider these points:

  • Offer older children a grown-up, age-appropriate explanation that is honest without defamation.
  • Let your grown children know that they are not expected to take sides in the separation process.
  • Let your children know that the shared history you have built together as a family will not be forgotten or dismissed.
  • Find ways to manage family events and include extended family and grandparents.
  • Plan in advance how matters such as inheritance, education, and financial support will be managed so that any practical questions can be answered.

Lessons from A Separated Dad’s Journey to Create A Dad’s Home

The following guest post was originated through conversations between Barry and a dad who at time of separation had two young children and shared parenting. The dad established a blended family. Below is a summary of the dad’s thoughts, concerns, and lessons from his journey.

Thoughts on finances, nutrition and health

Finances: consider initial issues – budgeting, paying bills, paying mortgage/rent, child support/spousal support, transportation; financial issues lead to mental health issues and relationship issues;

Try to avoid eviction which could result in interrupted parenting; credit rating issues, visa debts, etc.

Changing residences is common for a dad – difficult to parent in these circumstances; think residence through; what makes sense for you and your children; what can work? You want to establish a ‘stable environment’ if possible.

Can you afford a RESP if you have a young child?

Dietary: cooking skills- balanced meals, making interesting/healthy, school lunches; do your different children have special dietary needs? Part-time access dads too often eat out. You must learn to shop effectively, within a tight budget probably.

Home Health Care: What do you need in your new home with the children for everyday care. Think it through and if necessary, ask friends if this is not an area of strength. What are basic first aid needs for your children? Sore throats; insect bites, pink eye; bad falls; taking the child’s temperature and knowing what is alarming or a dull to normal range- or what steps to take to bring the child’s temperature down- when to go to emergency; etc.

Does your medical cabinet have all the necessary supplies to manage the day-to-day crisis? Are you competent?

Attend medical appointments; communicate info to the mother; make sure she knows that you want reciprocal information flow. Take a first aid course. Introduce yourself to your pharmacist. Read their brochures! Read labels on use of meds – children’s Advil, polysporin, band aids of every size, on and on it goes. Get advice from different sources.

Many separated dads now have infants and toddler age children. Many may have played a full role, others may have a limited role in the intact family based on any number of reasons; you must gain a comfort and competence level for the sake of your child and the parenting challenges you may face, going forward.

Don’t be hesitant to ask for help from any number of people with experience over many parenting years. There may be a fear within you about displaying a lack of knowledge; HOWEVER, you need this to be the long-term parent in your child’s life. Find trusted people in your life; work at filling in gaps in your parenting resume; be proud of yourself.

Early Stages (Hopefully) Mental Health

Do not be afraid to ask a trusted friend for their observations on your behavior. What do they see in you? You want them to be honest; you should not be hostile; process the feedback.

Most of us can handle the days and nights when we have our children. We feel like dad again! Unfortunately, when your parenting goes badly (not perfect as we envisioned), there may be several days each week without the children- the not-so-good experience can linger.

The possibility of an additional problem may depend on how you manage the days without the children. Behaviors can be harmful to you in the short and long run. Today the internet provides alternatives from on-line dating to gaming to…? The only pattern to life is the days with children, and days without the children often outnumber the first option.

Reckless behavior can be costly and lead to unpredictable parenting and a difficult parenting relationship with the mother.

GETTING IT TOGETHER IS A DIFFICULT BUT NECESSARY TASK IN THE EARLY MONTHS OR EVEN YEARS.

Your parenting life is not on pause and recognizing such as early as possible starts you down a path on building positive steps into your life.

  • 0-5: Practical steps: Doctor’s appointments; before school and after school appointments; early   years centres; YMCA; Community centres, play groups -inexpensive programs; parent-child swim; etc.
  • 5-12:
    • Find opportunities to be involved in your child’s extracurricular life through coaching, volunteering, school trips, etc.
    • Attend all teacher open house activities; Report cards and interviews; read daily planners for all the days; access school web site; stay on top of educational issues; be aware of any learning difficulties as your child progresses; find a pattern of fun and skills activities that you and your children will own for a lifetime.
    • Do the best job possible at maintaining or rebuilding a co-operative flow of communication with the child’s mother. There is a lot going on in two households for your children; if you can harmonize certain routines, life can become more predictable for everyone;
    • Each parent is different and may have very different parenting styles. You both likely know those difference from your time together. It is possible to employ that awareness into managing your parenting. e.g. use of video games, appropriate films, etc.
  • 12-18:  THE FUN/INTERESTING (???) TEEN YEARS:
    • The issues change during the pre-teen and adolescence years. Our own teen years sometimes influence how we handle discipline over the common challenges of these years: drugs, tobacco, alcohol, dating, motivation at school.
    • Peer relationships take precedent over family relationships. It is the natural order BUT for a separated dad who may have less parenting time to begin, it can feel like a loss of influence and oversight.
    • Adolescents in a two-home parenting scenario may go back and forth- not on the parenting schedule but on the kids’ schedule. It takes effective coparenting to stay in control of parenting decisions. It takes a different kind of parenting- keeping communication lines open- knowing their friends-recognizing troubles or mental health issues-preparing them for the next stage of post- adolescence life.
    • Remember the teen years in an intact family are also the ‘fun years’; so, don’t blame yourself or the other parent or the separation for every bump in the road.

Just do your best. Do what you need to do to be the parent you desire to be!

See the Resource Hub for more support.

Legal and financial considerations in separation

Note on legal pages: The recommended resources, articles, etc. are offered in part to make you aware of the different situations that may be part of your on-going journey. The law does change through legislation and case precedent. Some recent articles talk about different case law and legislation that may be updated again and again. You must do your own update or engage a legal professional or access legal services at the Family Law Information Centre (FLIC) at the Court House. WE ARE NOT LAWYERS!

At Kids ‘n’ Dad, we limit any specific comments on legal matters. Our legal observations are about the process and our personal experience and those of our clients.

  • We recommend the use of lawyers, where doing so makes sense. Lawyers in the community have helped us understand certain ‘unusual’ issues in law, in order to give direction to our clients.
  • It is important for every client going through the separating process to do their own homework on what makes sense for them and their family. Choices must be made at different junctures that are difficult. Some may work out as hoped, others less so.
  • It is important not to beat yourself up for choices made that go south; but try to learn lessons from those experiences. Do not react with behaviors that only aggravate an already difficult journey.

Remember our rule: Choices made should be intended to bring your family closer together, even if it is in a changed family form.

In the personal essay, Our Kids Matter, I discuss my journey some 25 years ago through the legal jungle that contributed to the premature loss of my children’s grandparents and damage to every important family relationship.

A non-adversarial approach in our view has the best opportunity to set in place a more peaceful process that respects each other as effective, integral parenting partners. You are establishing a problem-solving strategy for the inevitable differences. It will help ensure that your children know that their parents are working together.

If you read Why It Matters, you know that I made any number of critical errors i.e. a) no attempt at alternative, non-adversarial support; b) failing to find appropriate legal support; c) allowing others to take charge of outcomes; d) failed to take charge of my own destiny; e) assumed legal competency or emotional stability in the professionals- even when the signs were available that something was amiss.

Things to do differently

  • Don’t leave the matrimonial home! The caveat to this is that volatility/conflict could lead to police and/or F&CS involvement and alter this good advice. If that is a concern, attempt to sign an interim agreement (signed) re: the parenting care time/involvement for the children prior to either parent leaving. Some parents, in order to be least disruptive to the children, alternate being in the matrimonial home, if they have nearby family or friend to stay with part-time.
  • Don’t sign anything, especially if it seems to leave a legal opening for mischief. In other words don’t assume that goodwill prevails beyond the moment. The line that came back to haunt me- that won’t happen- it almost always did happen, unfortunately.
  • Verbal promises are not binding agreements/commitments. Sometimes. if implemented on an interim basis, they may show intent and buy you a history that may work for you or against you i.e. parenting arrangements in the early post-separation weeks and even months are very important.
  • Take responsibility for the direction of your legal strategy- or even the direction or approach of your negotiations. Know the different resources available to support your family in navigating the way to a parenting agreement and division of assets.

Rule re: your lawyer: Remember, when your lawyer is so empathetic and certain about the strength of your case, if the lawyer had been approached by the ‘other side’ first they would probably have been espousing similar words to their client. It is the nature of the adversarial approach. (See resources)

If it feels risky-it probably is.

Work at understanding the legal process. Many people are now self-representing. In fact, in many jurisdictions the figure ranges from 60-85%. Again, Family Law Information Centres (FLIC) are located in the courthouse to provide free counsel (30 minutes) to help facilitate document preparation or to answer specific questions. There is also some support at hearings through Duty counsel.

Research the drawbacks on self-representation. I admire those who do so; but the legal process can be complicated, and non-professionals don’t normally understand the different legal tools. There is some research that suggest self-representation leads to negative outcomes. The Law Commission is trying to reduce self-representation. Justices are generally less patient with wannabee lawyers, who are less efficient and stumble their way through the process.

You are at the mercy of the judge’s willingness to tolerate your inexperience. 

Common financial areas of conflict between separating/separated parents

Child support is laid out in guidelines and tables. Once a parenting agreement is signed the child support arrangement commences. It would seem to be straight forward…right?

There is rarely enough money to pay for a mom’s house and a dad’s house. Almost all separating partners are ‘funny’ about money.

Where/when does this show up? The initial period of separating is a complicated period re: child support. It is our suggestion that if a parent has the children less than 40% of overnights or there is a significant disparity in income, the parent who is the likely payer should pay the guideline child support prior to an agreement or set the amount in an account for possible future payments. Your ‘good intention’ is of some possible value in countering allegations that you are avoiding supporting your children.

Some payers (usually dads) balk at having wages garnished; however, this is the decision of the recipient. The Family Responsibility Office (FRO) eliminates flexibility, but does reduce potential, monthly conflict.

a) Extraordinary expenses for children e.g. grade 8 end of year school trips; daycare; braces; high level (?) activities; everything else that fall into a grey area- outside (?) of ‘normal’ care expenses. There is often a need to clarify what is an extraordinary expense. It is often a subject of a Court claim. Everything possible should be done to clarify such expenses from normal child support expenses.  I suggest that cooperating parents use common sense to determine the sharing of these expenses, usually done on a proportion to income basis.

b) Layoffs or loss of job has consequences for meeting child support and extraordinary expenses i.e. income may drop to E.I. income. Parenting plans should lay out a process that recognizes change of income in a timely way. The Covid virus created a ‘mess’ because of reduced income, reduced hours or loss of employment by payers.

C) Spousal support is determined through non-binding case law. Again, spousal support often has no apparent end date- to be determined. Very few requirements re: the receiving parent to move into the workplace or to actively (re)train. There are guidelines that are non-binding but are being generally employed by the court.

  • Ending child support for a child, who has graduated from secondary school,  but is unsure about going to post-education. This area is generally a mess, for often the paying parent has a less intimate relationship with the child. The recipient parent has a continuing need and has been used to receiving this payment and wants the payment to continue.
  • Many young graduates (age 17-18) now return for part-time (grow up) semester or two. Even if they don’t, the parent receiving payments has them often underfoot for some time. The receiving parent is balking/reluctant at voluntarily acknowledging the child’s completion of school and transition to independent living and responsibility for their own expenses. Cutting off payments immediately may have negative outcomes in your relationship with your child.
  • Remember that the definition of post-secondary education is very expansive and for many children flows straight out of secondary school graduation.
  • The paying parent and the recipient parent need to communicate early on a plan dealing with post-secondary education. This should be set out in the original separation agreement, if possible; but for certain, requires a conversation and resolution as the child enters their final year of high school.
  • The reality is that separated parents have more obligations than intact family parents to decide the level of support. In addition, the issue of continuing child support for a child away from their primary home is often a conflict i.e. 8 months at school/ 4 months at home. In some case precedents re: our clients, judges have applied a 1/3 responsibility for the overall cost to the child and to each parent.
  • Emotional Component: Making payments for child support with no certainty that the payment is going to provide for your child. Anger may show up when the ‘other’ parent informs you that you owe additional funds for unexpected child care expenses, etc… Disputes occur often over what is already included in normal child support vs. over and above costs.
  • If you are in a second relationship, every additional dollar paid out (especially in limited access situations) may be seen as a burden re: providing for your new family. In addition, the payments made to your child’s other home is not based on their family income/need. See attached article: My New Family Matters…Too!

While in general a new spouse’s’ income is not included in any child support calculation, the reality is that the new home (partner) pays toward child expenses from their family income. Children from a new, subsequent family are treated as second class to a parent’s first family (children) in Family Law’s pecking order. 

Further Comments

  • It is a rare separating family that has enough assets and yearly income to deal with the costs from a separation with children.
  • Accept that your lifestyle is going to take a significant dip. Children can’t be shielded from that reality; however, they can be shielded from any blame game targeting their other parent for the change in financial circumstances.
  • Spousal + child support + extraordinary expenses can add up to 50% or more of take home pay. In addition, there is a need to find a suitable place for the children, when they are residing with you on overnight stays. If a boy/girl that may mean an extra bedroom or a child sleeping in your room. It isn’t that this isn’t doable; however, there is a psychological aspect to a situation, when they are with you ‘feels’ inadequate or less than what they are used to or have in their other home.
  • Unfortunately, it may be a good ‘defensive’ step to ensure that the sleeping arrangements are ‘suitable’ by approaching a child specialist or even F&CS.
  • I made the mistake of discouraging sleepovers for my 12-year-old daughter at my ‘new place’ for the reasons given.  In addition, when my oldest daughter (age 16) moved to my residence (?) almost immediately, I failed to build a dad’s home in any meaningful way. Life seemed to be always in transition.
  • “I failed to understand that I was now a single parent, building a single parent home, just as my children’s other parent was doing.’
  • Consumer proposals are common enough for separating families with relatively low family incomes. Child support and any arrears are not reduced in a consumer proposal. These obligations are a priority that must be paid. Arrears may be subject to a court ordered repayment plan that is more ‘manageable’. Only a successful argument re: undue hardship may provide relief on Court ordered family support payments. Undue hardship is a difficult test and we suggest that you read more on that topic.
  • Allowing arrears to build up is a deadly outcome. Arrears cannot be willed away. They simply build and grow. You must take ‘timely’ steps to stop the bleeding in order to get a reduction in support payments for loss of job, layoff or pay reductions (reduced hours, etc.). Some of these relief actions may occur when tax returns (line 150) are disclosed in order to adjust the next year’s payment. However, there are life events where seeking immediate relief is required or arrears will begin to add up.
  • Unfortunately, there is no facilitator for negotiating a new agreement for legitimate change in financial circumstances. Because these payments are set out as Court orders, the court must agree to alter the financial agreement. One way to accomplish the change is for the recipient to agree to the changes on a voluntary/consent basis. The form is available on-line through the Attorney-General of Ontario web site. It is worth reviewing!
  • Mediation may be part of the agreed to process by the parties for settlement, if the parties are unable to reach an agreement.
  • Every separation agreement SHOULD have an accepted process to deal with finding solutions to the inevitable, life changes that are outside of going to court. It must be a process built expecting success not failure. It is my belief it should be mandatory.
  • Overwhelming weekly deficit and debts can lead to interrupted parenting and as such, even workplace problems from absence owing to depression. On too many occasions, I have had clients enter our office and when they leave, I know with high certainty that they are going to be overwhelmed financially and are ill-prepared for the financial challenge.
  • Updating your FRO payments because of conflict or substantial change through the Court with a lawyer may cost $3000 or more. It is a wicked system. The current system leads to serious, negative outcomes, because we can’t provide a process and solutions that are based on common sense. A concern is that law is built too often on unusual cases and these cases are not applicable for most disputes, where there is simply not enough money. (See resources – articles)
  • The use of the words voluntary, consensual, mediation and collaborative suggest that I am living in my own ‘dream’ world – agreements are often created from anger and discord. However, it is necessary to create a different, everyday environment for your children and yourself; or at least one of benign indifference!
  • The suggestions above are in everyone’s long term interest, including children, extended family, new partners, etc. Including the intention to follow a process set out in the original separation agreement is a head start to find non-conflict solutions.

‘Focus on fairness, respond with calm, never respond with anger!’ – A separated dad

To that wise advice, forgive yourself for a lapse…and then rededicate yourself to the above goal.

Do your homework on fairness! Don’t expect the law/guidelines to be thrown out because you have your unique, family history from yesteryear. What matters is finding a reasonable solution for where your family is now.

A Final Personal note:

Many years ago, half way through a 3 year journey to arrive at a final separation agreement, I said ‘enough is enough’. I was tired of being run over, so I decided to go to Small Claims Court over a couple of financial matters. I had hesitated for many months over taking such an action. I barely knew the process, except, that I was right about my cause and my expectation for success.

The details really don’t matter. What did matter was how I felt going through a process with my children’s mother, my son and my new partner in the court. Here were two former intimate partners, middle-aged parents, fighting over money OR to be truthful driven by everything that had happened over the last few years. I felt pathetic!

My ‘enough is enough’ cry would not be satisfied by a court victory or a court loss.

I was simply left with sadness and embarrassment at my decision to proceed. A lesson that I have never forgotten! I forgave myself in time; I learned a forever lesson! Does it move us to a calmer place or a more chaotic place? Each parent has to make their own assessment.

As stated earlier, cases are often based on unusual circumstances. As such, I still hold a belief that former, intimate partners and still parenting partners are better off working out common-sense solutions and compromises within the boundaries of family law.

It is unclear that the logic of the outcomes in the cases below had long-term benefits for the children, parents and grandparents. The judicial path places control in the hands of a justice and case law and perhaps whoever has the best lawyer.

I know that I would prefer to trust loving parents if at all possible!

               Remember the two resources that are great introductions to this topic:

              1) Our Kids Matter,    2.) My Family Matters…Too!